Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: x86-64 micro-architecture update

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On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 08:25:59AM -0400, Solomon Peachy wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 11:05:59AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > assume. And if you ask me, we should just stick to SSE2 as the baseline. 
> 
> Ie the status quo.
> 
> > What are the big gains to be had from SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, and SSE4.2? 
> 
> Each of those individually, and from a general system library 
> persepective, I'd wager not a whole lot.  But in aggregate, there are a 
> lot of Clear Linux benchmarks showing a sizeable bump in general purpose 
> performance.
> 
> That said -- A reasonable argument can be made to bump the baseline to 
> require SSE3, because all non-AMD x86_64 CPUs support it, and on the AMD 
> side, anything beyond their 1st-gen single-core K8s supports it.  
> (We're talking April 2005 here, versus the September 2003 introduction 
> of the very first x86_64 processor)

FWIW, in order to maintain historical guest ABI compatibility qemu
defaults to a CPU model, qemu64, that lacks sse3 support.

Most apps using libvirt (virt-install, virt-manager, OpenStack, oVirt,
etc) will override this historical default with something more modern.
So the QEMU default is only an issue for people who manually launch
QEMU without giving an explicit "-cpu" arg to pick something better.

Fortunately some work in QEMU upstream stands a good chance of letting us
move to a default CPU model that is more useful/modern in the not too
distant future (hopefully < 12 months)

Regards,
Daniel
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