Le 2019-07-22 17:29, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit :
On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 11:19:17AM +0200, Nicolas Mailhot via devel
wrote:
Le 2019-07-22 10:22, Miro Hrončok a écrit :
> Personally, I wish we had spent less engineering time in
> infrastructure on Modularity and more on the contributor UX :(
It’s not just Modularity. Modularity is just a symptom. There is
something
deeply broken in the Red Hat / Fedora interface.
RHEL made Red Hat fortunes. It’s what justified the billions IBM paid
for it
(RHEL is the only Red Hat product where Red Hat completely dominates
the
market, even the best other offerings, like OpenShift, are just one
among
many).
And Fedora is RHEL’s future.
And yet what do we see ?
A team that is over-committed and try to scale down to narrow its focus
and be
in a position to help more the project?
And to reinforce, I am speaking about *a team*, not in anyway the whole
of Red
Hat.
Yes, sure, and it’s way better to scale down in a planned way than
explode in flight like happened Java SIG. But, in the end, it’s the same
root cause: inadequate level of resources just to keep going, because
the problem space became more rich and complex, but the level of
investment didn’t follow.
And I realize it’s a lot easier to write for someone not working @rh,
and I’m probably making a lot of persons on the list uncomfortable, but
how many Fedora activities need to scale down or close before someone
tells the @rh higher ups there is a problem?
[...]
Huge Red Hat investments, in the container ecosystem. And yet we get
told
CPE is downsizing its activities, in part because all the new cool
things
happen in the container space, contributors want to work on cool
things,
Fedora/RHEL is absent from this space, packaging the things
containerized
infra need is an afterthought.
Could you expend what you mean here? I really do not follow how you go
from that
first sentence to the second.
That was given as one of the reasons in the thread: CPE is downsizing,
in part because there are less outsiders willing to work, because the
cool stuff is container-side, and CPE does not do it. So we’ve slowly
gotten to the point, where non-Fedora @rh initiatives, are vacuuming the
cool factor space, that Fedora needs to survive and grow.
--
Nicolas Mailhot
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