On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 9:02 PM Miro Hrončok <mhroncok@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 01. 07. 19 16:21, Peter Robinson wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 2:34 AM Miro Hrončok <mhroncok@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > >> On 28. 06. 19 0:51, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 at 18:49, Neal Gompa <ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx > >>> <mailto:ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > What about postponing this change to F32? I'd prefer python2 to be > >>> > retired and gone from the distro first, and the symlink and > >>> > %python_provide definition only switched then. I think that having > >>> > this middle state where python2 is available but python points to > >>> > python3 for exactly one release will be more confusing that switching > >>> > directly to the final state where python2 is gone and python simply > >>> > means python3. > >>> > > >>> > >>> I think it makes sense to make the switch before we retire, because > >>> then people's expectations are changed ahead of time and they can > >>> adapt to The Future(TM). > >>> > >>> > >>> Actually I think it makes more sense that F31 provides no /usr/bin/python. Then > >>> a lot of things which depend on it can be found and fixed since they have not > >>> adapted to the Future any other way. > >> > >> We've been actively forbidding packagers doing that for more than a year. > >> Most packages that still require /usr/bin/python are either: > >> > >> * FTBFS since Fedora 28 (and I will make sure we follow the policy this time > >> and finally kill those) > >> > >> or > >> > >> * willingly workarounded by the packagers who tend to ignore all our > >> recommendations (nothing we can really do here) > >> > >> Totally that is 10 runtime dependent packages and 64 buildtime. > >> > >> > >> If we take away /usr/bin/python and "python" provide, those things won't resolve. > >> > >> If we change it to Python 3, some of them might work, most of them probably > >> won't. Some of them are broken already (like > >> > >> $ (repoquery --repo=rawhide-source --whatrequires python; repoquery > >> --repo=rawhide-source --whatrequires python-unversioned-command; repoquery > >> --repo=rawhide-source --whatrequires /usr/bin/python) | pkgname | sort | uniq > >> audit > >> bibus > >> bitfrost > >> blitz > >> claws-mail > >> coan > >> crun > >> distro-info > >> distro-info-data > >> dracut-modules-olpc > >> dtrx > >> gcc > >> gnome-python2-desktop > >> graphite2 > >> grass > >> gwebsockets > >> htop > >> hyperscan > >> cherrytree > >> chocolate-doom > >> json4s > >> kcov > >> libclc > >> libtaskotron > >> liquidwar > >> maxima > >> mchange-commons > >> mingw-qt5-qtdeclarative > >> mingw-wine-gecko > >> mongo-c-driver > >> mozc > >> offlineimap > >> olpc-contents > >> olpc-os-builder > >> perl-Plack > >> planner > >> python-rospkg > >> qtwebkit > >> qt5-qtdeclarative > >> sbt > >> seamonkey > >> sugar-base > >> sugar-castle > >> sugar-deducto > >> sugar-flip > >> sugar-jukebox > >> sugar-kuku > >> sugar-measure > >> sugar-pippy > >> sugar-srilanka > >> sugar-starchart > >> sugar-toolkit > >> sugar-yupana > >> swift-lang > >> tarantool > >> termy-qt > >> twitter-twemoji-fonts > >> uboot-tools > >> udis86 > >> vdsm > >> vte > >> wesnoth > >> wine-mono > >> 0ad > >> > >> $ (repoquery --repo=rawhide --whatrequires python; repoquery --repo=rawhide > >> --whatrequires python-unversioned-command; repoquery --repo=rawhide > >> --whatrequires /usr/bin/python) | pkgname | sort | uniq > >> gwebsockets > >> icaro > >> pyqt-mail-checker > >> qct > >> redhat-lsb-languages > >> resiprocate-turn-server-psql > >> sugar > >> sugar-toolkit > >> vdsm > >> vdsm-yajsonrpc > > > > I fixed the following up: > > uboot-tools > > gnome-python2-desktop > > gwebsockets > > sugar > > sugar-base > > sugar-castle > > sugar-deducto > > sugar-flip > > sugar-jukebox > > sugar-kuku > > sugar-measure > > sugar-pippy > > sugar-srilanka > > sugar-starchart > > sugar-toolkit > > sugar-yupana > > Thanks. > > > The following are FTB due to someone retiring Pyrex out from under > > them without notifying me (there's been a number of py2 packages that > > have had that happen) so they're going to take a bit longer. > > bitfrost > > dracut-modules-olpc > > olpc-contents > > olpc-os-builder > > I've notified you at least 3 times: > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel-announce@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/thread/4LKL4NAQZOF6ETC62IKEP5KWGSI5PUNA/ > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel-announce@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/thread/23I5LPSAYL3OFR5UNEKFLZKPGCRBLVYC/ > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/thread/X77IOA2RE3KADMMVPISYSESA3KYJ2UFR/ Do you cc: affected people on those? I was on PTO and traveling in the window of the messages you link there so they probably got lost in the million other devel@ and related emails, it's easy enough for them to get lost if you don't have an explicit notification it's something you should be paying attention too. Peter _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
