Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal: Switch RPMs to zstd compression

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On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 10:01:22AM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 2:11 AM Panu Matilainen <pmatilai@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > On 6/5/19 12:53 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> > > At least for small files, and there are many in any distribution,
> > > using a dictionary very well could improve compression/decompression
> > > time, compression ratio, more than threads. Adding dictionary support
> > > would help all the single thread hardware, and even the builders when
> > > zstd -T0 option dictates there's only 1 or 2 threads available. On the
> > > generic sample set, it's functionally like getting 4 threads on speed,
> > > and even compression ratio goes up by ~3x. But I have no idea how that
> > > sample set compares to Fedora's files.
> > >
> >
> > Yes, but as I mentioned in another email, rpm doesn't compress the files
> > individually, it compresses them as one big continuous archive. The
> > dictionary is unlikely to help that (in my quick test yesterday it
> > actually made it worse)
> 
> Sorry about that I missed it. The --long/windowLog option sounds interesting.
> 
> I found this on HN today. While xz is not expressly being used within
> Fedora/Red Hat packaging in an archive context, it does seem to have
> quite a lot of other potential problems. But I have no idea what
> lurking liabilities zstd will have.
> 
> http://lzip.nongnu.org/xz_inadequate.html

That page should be taken with a grain of salt. IIRC, it's was written
by some who wanted to push their own alternative version, and most of
the critique has been debunked.

> Tangentially, I think there is room for improvement with LiveOS
> delivery, which right now is doing something pathological I haven't
> been able to figure out compared to other distro LiveOS's: 100% CPU
> usage reported by one of the /dev/loopN processes during startup and
> installation. And as it's a single thread, it's a bottleneck.
> Everytime I do an installation on any computer, fans go to the max. I
> don't know that this is xz related, but it might be perturbing things
> because decompression is so processor intensive. I'll start a separate
> thread.

Zbyszek
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