On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 7:49 AM Roberto Ragusa <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 5/4/19 10:50 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > One of my bricks that will soon get Fedora 30 was originally installed with Fedora Core 4. > > > > Obviously a minority; but you'll be surprised to learn how many systems there are which have been running Fedora for a very long time. Fedora 20 is what, about five years old? There are many, many systems which are at least five years old. People don't really swap hardware every 2-3 years, any more. > My contribution to the surprise: > > [root@localhost ~]# grep fedora-release /root/install.log > Installing fedora-release-3-8.i386. > [root@localhost ~]# uname -a > Linux localhost 5.0.4-200.fc29.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Mar 25 02:27:33 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux You're kind of begging for pain, at this point. Thee have been enough subtle, fundamental, and functionally incompatible updates to filesysems such as ext4 and xfs that a surprise at upgrade should not shock you too much. > This system was upgraded from Fedora 3 up to 29. > Also note it started as i386, but at Fedora 16 got transformed into x86_64, a kind of (manual) upgrade never > officially considered possible. *Ouch*. OK, now you're just hurting yourself. Definitely time to back up your old system and do a fresh install. > I don't understand the consideration about old or new hardware. > Why would I have to reinstall the system when getting new hardware? > My Fedora system has jumped across 4 machines and who knows how many HDD/SDD replacements. It Depends(tm). One issue I've encountered is with disk controllers. Anaconda is pretty good about detecting disk controllers at boot time and loading up initrd appropriately. on the new OS. Deducing the disk controller, the order of discovery of such controllers, and the tuning necessary to upgrade the OS reliably is an adventure. It also used to be worse when the file systems were referred to in /etc/fstab by their partition numbers, such as "/dev/sda1" which became "/dev/sde1" on the old Promise RAID controllers depending on which support patch they had applied. Ye *ghods*, I hated those controllers..... _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx