Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Retire Python 2

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On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 8:09 AM Nico Kadel-Garcia <nkadel@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 5:17 AM Miro Hrončok <mhroncok@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > On 26. 04. 19 3:08, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 3:20 PM Miro Hrončok <mhroncok@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On 25. 04. 19 20:35, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> > >>>       > How much is going to be needed for "mock" to still work for older
> > >>>       > operating systems?
> > >>>
> > >>>      I'm confused. How is the change relevant for mock? I think I'm missing some
> > >>>      pieces of the thought process here, could you please elaborate on that?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> In the past, changes where old versions of python were no longer supported in
> > >>> Fedora, then newer versions of mock/etc became dead in older OS's like RHEL-5's
> > >>> python24 and RHEL-6's python26. This would make compiling packages for certain
> > >>> versions of the OS impossible because the parent operating system didn't have a
> > >>> version of python it could use and you couldn't use newer source code on the
> > >>> older os.
> > >>>
> > >>> The question is moot because you are the wrong person to ask. The person to ask
> > >>> is the owner of mock and I expect the answer will be... I don't have time to
> > >>> support N versions of python but you have the source code.. so do it yourself.
> > >>> [Probably nicer than that.. but the general effect.]
> > >>
> > >> mock in EPEL 6 is already "dead" in that matter:
> > >>
> > >>     https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1694159
> > >>
> > >> mock in EPEL 7 can run on Python 3.6:
> > >>
> > >>     https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/mock/pull-request/6
> > >
> > > Which could make sense, but makes mock more awkward to install.
> >
> > How is that more awkward? The installation would still be be `yum install
> > epel-release && yum install mock`.
>
> It brings in a distinct scripting language that is not part of the
> commercially supported base OS and makes the OS image for the server
> with mick installed notably larger. It's not *outrageous*, but it
> branches the tools for mock further from the base python on older,
> RHEL 7 systems. It adds support and places even more commoercial grade
> support on the EPEL repository.packages.

Not for long. RHEL 7.7 is going to include Python 3 in the base:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1639030

And even if it wasn't, mock only exists in EPEL anyway, so we can
consider EPEL dependencies for mock itself.


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