Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal: Set skip_if_unavailable default to false

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On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 1:53 PM Samuel Sieb <samuel@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On 4/25/19 10:04 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 6:39 AM Vít Ondruch <vondruch@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> Dne 24. 04. 19 v 23:04 Ben Cotton napsal(a):
> >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Set_skip_if_unavailable_default_to_false
> >>>
> >>> == Summary ==
> >>> Dnf team wants to change a default setting for the repo option
> >>> `skip_if_unavailable` to `FALSE`.
>
> >>>   The default behavior could be overwritten by a
> >>> configuration of each repository or in dnf by configuration in
> >>> /etc/dnf/dnf.conf.
> >
> > Or overridden for specific repositories as needed in mock, koji, or
> > the individual .repo files. I intensely dislike the exclussion in
> > fedora.repo: the only reason I can see for it is to enable the Media
> > repository with no other work and have things kind-of, sort-of work.
> >
> >>> The behavior is not new, because it was used already by YUM, and the
> >>> behavior is really essential because all Fedora ropos are already
> >>> shipped with `skip_if_unavailable=FALSE`.
> >
> > Which I think was a horrible, horrible idea, for reasons mentioned above.
>
> It sounds to me like you are misunderstanding the setting.  When it is
> set to false, you can't do updates when a repository is missing.  It
> won't skip them.  You can only do an update if all repositories are
> available and can be checked.

Gahhh. I read the logic backwards. I take back my objection, "False"
is the much safer option, in general, and should be overruled on a
case by case basis. The difficulty is that people used to the
convention are going to wind up confused. Perhaps it should be
explicitly listed in the [main] stanza ?
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