On Di, 16.04.19 09:06, Adam Williamson (adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > I think all of these are good ideas. "No udev-settle" seems like a nice > > highlevel goal to shoot for. > > > > Another one I might add: "No stuck stop jobs" - it annoys me every single > > time when I reboot and something like rngd or conmon holds up my reboot > > for several minutes for no reason at all. > > I've seen the rngd stop thing, hadn't had time to investigate it yet as > more urgent fires keep showing up :/ What's the story anyway for rngd? Why would userspace be better at providing entropy to the kernel than the kernel itself? Why do we enable it on desktops at all, such systems should not be entropy-starved. Do we need this at all now that the kernel can use RDRAND itself? rngd runs as regular system service, hence what's the point of that altogether? I mean, it runs so late during boot, at a point where the entropy pool is full anyway, and we need the kernel's RNG much much earlier already (already because systemd assigns a uuid to each service invocation that derives from kernel RNG, and it does that super early). So, why run a service that is supposed to fill up the entropy pool at a point where we don't need it anymore, and if the kernel can do what it does most likely already on its own? Isn't it time to kick rngd out of the default install, in particular on the workstation image? Isn't keeping it around just cargo culting? Lennart -- Lennart Poettering, Berlin _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx