On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 11:43 AM Miroslav Suchý <msuchy@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Dne 12. 03. 19 v 12:34 Neal Gompa napsal(a): > > This whole process was handled in the worst possible way. To sum up: > > * No one knew Java SIG was having manpower issues because Mikolaj > > didn't know how to ask for help > > * Now it's too late because he orphaned nearly 1700 packages to force > > modularization > > * This caused everyone dependent on those packages to freak > > * And here we are in the bad ending... > > Alternative sum up: > * People (not just Mikolaj) started using modules, while Koji cannot use modular repos. > Addendum: some of us part-time packagers, which depended on these packages to build our own Java packages don't know how to convert to modular packaging. I'm still trying to learn in my spare time, but I don't know where to look and have limited time. It was nearly all the spare cycles I had just to learn RPM, Fedora RPM packaging policies, and how to use fedpkg, koji, and bodhi. Now... I'm kinda lost again and feel like I'm starting over from scratch. I can't be the only one. I still think a lot of this is being driven by experienced Fedora packagers, and those involved in composes, but without a lot of regard to the casual or relatively inexperienced packager. pkgdb was a highly usable tool for inexperienced packagers, as it was a "one stop shop" for everything related to your package... but now... it's hard to find all the tools you need to do packaging. I have several Java packages that depend on one another, as well as dependencies now in modular repos. I have no idea where to get started. Which ones should be in the same module? Should each RPM be put in separate modules? How do I create convert my packages to modules? What is the workflow for builds? For updates? Do I still use fedpkg to submit to koji and bodhi? How will users install my RPMs now? I feel a bit overwhelmed by all of this... and I'm sure I should be spending more time trying to figure all this out on my own... but I really don't know where to start. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
