On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 1:17 PM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski <dominik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Tuesday, 12 March 2019 at 12:02, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 11:49 AM Jakub Jelen <jjelen@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Is there already a way to package the java application as a module or
> > we will really remove all these package from Fedora?
>
> Most of Java packages listed in this thread are already packaged as
> modules. Their retirement in rawhide won't directly cause their
> removal from distribution.
Maybe, but it will cause the removal of other packages that depend on
their regular (non-modular) builds. You are forcing the hands of their
maintainers before the infrastructure to make modular packages available
as build dependencies to regular packages is in place to remake their
packages into modules, let them be retired or pick up your orphans. If
it were ready, your moving these packages to modules would be a
non-event for everyone concerned except you. Instead of helping with
that (or just waiting), you are about to cause the retirement of quite a
few packages whose maintainers want nothing to do with Modularity.
That's not excellent.
Dominik, that is totally ugly reply to Mikolaj! Whole Java RPM community (note not only Fedora but Mageia and etc. too) relied on his work to keep hundreds (or maybe even thousands) of packages rpm installable. And he has done that for years without ever complaining! Even more he is one of the most helpful maintainers whenever someone faces an issue. Respect should be shown when deserved, blaming like that causes nothing but ill feelings.
Everyone should remember that this is *COMMUNITY* project and if/when someone needs something they should be ready to jump in and do the work - whether taking packages or helping infra guys or whatever but no one owes others anything.
P.S. As Eclipse stack maintainers we are directly hit by this and already working towards turning it into module as we don't have the manpower to take over the maintainership of pristine rpms that Mikolaj maintains. Whoever things that's easy job is welcome to try it out!
Regards,
Dominik
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