Re: Orphaned packages that will be retired (and everything will most likely burn)

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On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 5:03 PM Alexander Bokovoy <abokovoy@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On to, 28 helmi 2019, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> >On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 at 06:11, Ingo Hoffmann <ingo@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> First time here and concerned Java citizen. Who or how can I contact regarding the maven package maintenance? I want to either maintain or co-maintain it if there's someone already doing it.
> >>
> >
> >Note there are 2 different maven's. There is maven in a RPM module set
> >which isn't going away. And then there is a non-modular maven set. You
> >might find that the things you need are in the module set. I would
> >also work with the rest of the java packaging team to see what they
> >are doing and why they are doing it.
> >
> >One of the side effects of modules is that people need to work more
> >together on packages to see if their needs can be better organized and
> >grouped together.
> Unfortunately, this forces other packages to go to modules. For example,
> FreeIPA in Fedora doesn't like to be in a module but this change
> (removal of maven, ant, etc) forces our dependency to disappear and the
> only way for us is to be in a module. This doesn't sound good at all.

Said differently, the above mass-orphaning is equivalent to a
unannounced change (
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/30/ChangeSet ).
Note that I do not blame the original maintainer's for orphaning: I'm
just stating that if modules are not accepted in buildroots the impact
is worse than any unannounced, self-contained change. This is the
shortcoming that should be addressed.

François

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> Security / Identity Management Engineering
> Red Hat Limited, Finland
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