Once upon a time, Rahul Sundaram <rahulsundaram@xxxxxxxxxxx> said: > let me get this straight. if its called fedora core > and is in ISO images, its there and if its in fedora > extras as rpm packages, it goes away? Hey, let's just put the kernel and a static shell on a CD; you can get the rest over the Internet! Objectives of Fedora Core: 1. Create a complete general-purpose operating system with capabilities equivalent to competing operating systems, ... ... 6. Emphasize usability and a "just works" philosophy in selecting default configuration and designing features. ... 8. Include a range of popular packages, beyond those included in Red Hat's commercially supported products. (Limited, of course, to packages that Red Hat can legally provide; also limited to quality packages as defined by our standards.) ... If the plan is to chuck everything possible to Extras, then someone should go update the Objectives. Competing operating systems include sudo or something like it. -- Chris Adams <cmadams@xxxxxxxxxx> Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.