Re: Ditch RPM in favor of DPKG

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On Tue, 2019-02-19 at 11:03 +0100, Dridi Boukelmoune wrote:
> Greetings packagers,
> 
> I know how important RPM is to the Fedora Project, but it breaks
> everything downstream and we'd be better off using DPKG as we should
> have from day one.
> 
> I'm calling this initiative fedpkg: Fedora Embraces DPKG.
> 
> A bit of background here: I build both RPMs and DEBs for $DAYJOB and
> until recently my workflow was quite painful because I needed extra
> steps
> between git checkout and git push that involves a VM, because what we
> ship as apt is in reality apt-rpm.
> 
> It finally got enough on my nerves to locally build the things I
> needed and
> after a month I have already amortized my efforts with the time I
> save not
> having to deal with needless extra hoops.
> 
> In order to successfully build debs on Fedora I needed 4 packages
> that
> I'm now submitting for review:
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=gnu-config
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=strip-nondeterminism
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=sbuild
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=apt
> 
> I need more than reviews here.
> 
> Three of those packages are heavy on Perl code, and I'm not a Perl
> Monk. I tried to CC perl-sig as per the guidelines [1] (also tried
> with
> the mailing list address) but bugzilla replied kindly:
> 
>     CC: perl-sig did not match anything
> 
> Apt is a mix of C, Perl and C++ code, so I would be reassured if I
> could have a C++ co-maintainer too. I'm only a C developer so if
> something goes wrong outside of the C realm that would be helpful.
> 
> Two of those packages should be runtime dependencies of debhelper.
> 
> The current apt package should be renamed to apt-rpm, I will look up
> the procedure for that to happen. I understand that when someone sees
> they should run "apt-get install foo" somewhere on the web it's
> helpful for non-savvy users that this JustWorks(tm) [2], but apt-rpm
> is
> dead upstream and it shouldn't be advertised as apt.
> 
> I hope I CC'd everyone that should get this heads up, and hope to
> find
> help for the reviews and co-maintainership. The packaging does
> nothing
> fancy, there are quirks here and there but overall it was rather easy
> to put together. And of course I would be happy to help with reviews
> too in exchange.
> 
> And thanks again to the mock developers, its design is so much better
> than either sbuild or pdebuild that I barely have pain points left
> when it
> comes to RPM packaging.
> 
> Thanks,
> Dridi
> 
> [1] 
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/Perl/#_perl_sig
> [2] I'm not against apt-rpm in the base install for example


TLDR ,  apt-rpm should be retired because nobody use it since more than
10 years .

I maintain a lot of debian package in Fedora but apt-debian still not
on Official repos you can get it from my devel corp repo [1]
My goal is make a system where rpm produce deb files , to allow Debian
migrate from deb to rpm . 
rpm is much more powerful than Debian IMHO .

[1]
https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/sergiomb/debs/monitor/


I can build .deb packages in Fedora and download packages with apt-
debian :

debuild -i -us -uc -b -d
from 
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Creating_packages_for_other_distributions#Tips_and_tricks_2

You may also need to override dh_shlibdeps by adding the following
lines to debian/rules:

override_dh_shlibdeps:

   dh_shlibdeps --dpkg-shlibdeps-params=--ignore-missing-info

and
override_dh_strip_nondeterminism:


>From [1] "I'd like propose retire this apt and fedora-package-config-
apt".
 
[1] 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1462485

-- 
Sérgio M. B.
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