Hi, Georg Sauthoff <mail@xxxxxxxx> writes: [...] > Yes, I'm asserting this and I already asserted it in my original mail. Sorry about that, it was a bug in the pcp spec file and how we were handling pmcd/pmlogger's configuration. Thanks for catching it! I've submitted a fedora update to fix this and disable listening on network sockets for pmcd and pmlogger by default on f28,f29 and rawhide. [...] > There are basically 2 issues: > 1) The dependencies of the package that provides the dstat replacement > (i.e. pcp-system-tools) > 2) The vendor presets of the pmlogger/pmcd/pmie services > (which are currently provided by pcp) Please note that outside of this bug, we're in line with fedora guidelines wrt to enabled services. If individual users wish to deviate from the vendor presets, they are free to do so. > There are different ways to improve the user experience in that way: > a) Fix the dependencies of pcp-system-tools such that it doesn't require > the pcp package (which provides the pmcd/pmlogger/pmie services), > and/or Looking into this, it may require more than reworking which files are packed within individual rpms (such as moving the pmda's/pmns components into pcp-libs). There are some configuration bits also needed wrt to the metrics namespace that the pcp-system-tools package will also need changed. We can continue to evaluate it, but it won't be an overnight change. > b) Change the vendor presets for the pmcd/pmlogger/pmie services to > disabled, or PCP maintainers have opted to offer vendor-default enabled pmcd, pmlogger and pmie services. To reiterate, outside of this spec file bug (which we've submitted a fix for) we're compliant with fedora guidelines regarding enabled services. If a user wishes to install pcp-system-tools and its dependencies, then (like any other package) is it their responsibility to alter the configuration as desired if it deviates from the distribution default. Lukas _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx