Re: Policy regarding service preset enabled (e.g. performance co-pilot)

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Hi,

Georg Sauthoff <mail@xxxxxxxx> writes:
[...]
> Yes, I'm asserting this and I already asserted it in my original mail.

Sorry about that, it was a bug in the pcp spec file and how we were
handling pmcd/pmlogger's configuration.  Thanks for catching it!  I've
submitted a fedora update to fix this and disable listening on network
sockets for pmcd and pmlogger by default on f28,f29 and rawhide.

[...]
> There are basically 2 issues:
> 1) The dependencies of the package that provides the dstat replacement
>    (i.e. pcp-system-tools)
> 2) The vendor presets of the pmlogger/pmcd/pmie services
>    (which are currently provided by pcp)

Please note that outside of this bug, we're in line with fedora
guidelines wrt to enabled services.  If individual users wish to deviate
from the vendor presets, they are free to do so.

> There are different ways to improve the user experience in that way:
> a) Fix the dependencies of pcp-system-tools such that it doesn't require
>    the pcp package (which provides the pmcd/pmlogger/pmie services),
>    and/or

Looking into this, it may require more than reworking which files are
packed within individual rpms (such as moving the pmda's/pmns components
into pcp-libs).  There are some configuration bits also needed wrt to
the metrics namespace that the pcp-system-tools package will also need
changed.  We can continue to evaluate it, but it won't be an overnight
change.

> b) Change the vendor presets for the pmcd/pmlogger/pmie services to
>    disabled, or

PCP maintainers have opted to offer vendor-default enabled pmcd,
pmlogger and pmie services.  To reiterate, outside of this spec file bug
(which we've submitted a fix for) we're compliant with fedora guidelines
regarding enabled services.  If a user wishes to install
pcp-system-tools and its dependencies, then (like any other package)
is it their responsibility to alter the configuration as desired if it
deviates from the distribution default.

Lukas
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