On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 1:29 PM Owen Taylor <otaylor@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
If I understand the proposal, I'm slightly concerned that the proposed
use of Supplements: means that there will be no longer any single
place where we declare "this is our recommended font for LangX, this
is our recommended input method for LangX" - the history of this will
be collectively over all of dist-git and hard to extract. (And it will
be necessary to go to packages we stop using and remove Supplemenets)
What is the reason for the use of Supplements instead of just adding
Recommends: to the langpacks packages?
Thanks. I have corrected it in the Change wiki page. Initially it was a thought to use Supplements. You can see Recommends is used already in test langpacks spec file.
Parag
Owen
On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 2:58 PM Ben Cotton <bcotton@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Congratulations to the last System-Wide Change proposal of F30!
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Replace_Comps_Language_Group_With_Langpacks
>
> == Summary ==
> Language support groups in Comps file will get replaced by langpacks
> package. With this Change we want meta-packages like langpacks-ja to
> also install required fonts and input-methods for the given language.
>
> == Owner ==
> * Name: [[User:petersen| Jens Petersen]]
> * Email: petersen at fedoraproject dot org
> * Name: [[User:pnemade| Parag Nemade]]
> * Email: pnemade at fedoraproject dot org
>
> == Detailed Description ==
> This change will remove the need of having the language specific comps
> groups in Fedora.
>
> We already have ''langpacks-*'' packages in Fedora since F24.
> Currently they are installing language packages for translations,
> dictionaries etc. but not fonts or input-methods. With this Change we
> will try to install fonts and input-methods as well.
> E.g. if you net-install Fedora in Japanese language then installation
> of any base package like libreoffice-core or man-pages are installing
> automatically libreoffice-langpack-ja or man-pages-ja but langpacks-ja
> is not installing any Japanese font or input-method.
> But now with using RPM tags or weak dependencies like Supplements, we
> can get font as well as input-method packages installed as well on the
> system.
> There is no need of language comps groups to exist, they will be
> replaced by langpacks.
>
> This Change is originally submitted at https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/97
>
> == Benefit to Fedora ==
> Users can install complete language support now using langpacks only.
> This will also help to remove the language support groups from the
> comps file.
>
> == Scope ==
> * Proposal owners: Check all langpacks providing packages (like fonts,
> input-methods) add Supplements tag in their SPEC file and build them.
> We will track the progress of this Change in
> [https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/pnemade/langpacks/ Langpacks
> Copr] project.
> * Other developers: To all other developers of packages who provides
> langpacks, they need to add the Supplements tag as given in this
> [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Langpacks Langpacks
> guideline] to each langpack subpackage.
> * Release engineering: none
> * Policies and guidelines: none
>
> == Upgrade/compatibility impact ==
> None.
>
> == How To Test ==
>
> * [[QA:Langpacks]]
>
> == User Experience ==
> Currently users can get complete language support installed only using
> "''dnf group install <lang-support>''" command. After this Change gets
> implemented end users can get language support installed using
> meta-packages "''langpacks-<langcode>"'' only
>
> == Dependencies ==
> No Other Change depend on this.
>
> == Contingency Plan ==
> * Contingency mechanism: If this change is not completed by final
> development freeze then we need to target this for F31. We are just
> proposing to add additional information in langpacks packages that is
> Supplements tag. This should not affect individual langpacks packages
> installation by dnf.
> * Contingency deadline: I don't think we will need anything to revert
> or apply any contingency plan here if this is not completed by beta
> freeze.
> * Blocks release? No
> * Blocks product? N/A
>
> == Documentation ==
> * Need to add about this in the Release notes
>
>
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