On Tue, Jan 8, 2019, at 11:15 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 10:50 AM Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jan 08, 2019 at 04:22:39PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > > The additional information could be > > > > 10.5.124.209 - - [31/Dec/2018:09:07:21 +0000] "GET > > > > /metalink?repo=fedora-28&arch=x86_64&uuid=<blah>&edition=<blah> > > > > HTTP/1.1" 200 62200 "-" "dnf/2.7.5" > > > If all you want to do is count, then it should be entirely sufficient > > > to do it like this: > > > GET /metalink?repo=fedora-28&arch=x86_64&edition=<blah>&countme=1 HTTP/1.1 > > > the first time within each one-week window and a simple > > > GET /metalink?repo=fedora-28&arch=x86_64&edition=<blah> HTTP/1.1 > > > all other times. > > > Then, sum up how many "countme=1" GET requests we get per week, and > > > you have a good count, without tracking individual clients, without > > > inventing new uuids¹. > > > > I do like this idea! > > > > And, if there's not an associated UUID, it's more comfortable to do > > "countme=2" the second week and onward -- this would make it easy to > > distinguish systems which are short-lived. (Or "countme=new" and > > "countme=ongoing" or something?) > > > > Hmmmm. How comfortable would people be with reporting an incrementing count > > *every* week (again, without a UUID attached)? That'd give a new axis into > > the data which I can imagine being quite useful. > > > > > I like this idea and I think it's generally less likely to set off > alarm bells about privacy. I do think we probably want to avoid an > *incrementing* count, though to avoid questions around using > time-of-install as a vector into identifying the owner. So the > "new-vs-ongoing" differentiator seems reasonable to me. I *would* > suggest that we probably want to have it send "countme=new" every time > it tries to reach the mirrorlink until the first time it gets a proper > response. After that, sending "countme=ongoing" once a week would be > good additional information. I'd propose countme=new the first time, then countme=thirty or the original version of fedora that was installed on this machine, so you could also track upgrades over time vs new installs. V/r, James Cassell _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx