On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 06:24:14PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > * The Fedora community cares about privacy and is adverse to tracking > > measures. We don't want to track; just count. > Uh, so what's the story there? i mean, if you pass over the uuid you > make clients trackable, regardless if you want to make use of that or > not... Not if we don't keep them for long. One idea is to rotate them fairly frequently. But this is mostly a statement of intent and might be more about how we build the backend than about what we force in the client. > > > * For this reason, we don’t want to use any identifier like > > /etc/machine-id which may be used for other purposes. > For purposes like this we have "application-specific machine > IDs". This is exposed in the sd_id128_get_machine_app_specific() API: > https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/sd_id128_get_machine.html [...] > It appears to me that this concept is what you might want to use > here. You could either use our C API for that, but you can easily > reimplement it in a fully compatible way in any programming language > you like without using our C API too, after all HMAC-SHA256 is pretty > commonly available and not fancy in any way. Thanks, that makes sense. > BTW, afaik Ubuntu counts installations through NTP: they provide their [..] > Of course, doing it that way would mean fedora would have to host NTP > servers... Hmmm. We have fedora.pool.ntp.org, in fact. I'm not sure who actually runs that! -- Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Fedora Project Leader _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
