>jed - another text mode editor - we already discussed moving this to extras >joe - yet another text editor ( nano / pico / emacs / ed / vi ) nano doesn't do utf8 afaict, pico isn't in the distribution (it's pine) emacs is almost it's own operating system ed doesn't count and you know it vi is not an editor I'm fine with moving joe to extras personally but it does fill a place nothing else fills. -sv