On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 at 11:35, Tomasz Kłoczko <kloczko.tomasz@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: [..] > I’m talking about F30 recent change in which has been implemented switch to dubs-broker. > Ps. If this change has been propagated to F29 (hopefully not) more things will be screwed. Seems I found what caused the issue. I've been doing upgrade (only) dbus packages using rpm and for some reason after all old dbus-daemon has been killed and deactivated and at the same time dbus-broker has not been started. Instant effect was very strange. For example I was unable to unpack any archives with files owned by group/user not present in my system because NSS seems now depends on dbus as well. After next few minutes Gnome GUI crashed, if [ $1 -eq 1 ] ; then systemctl --no-reload disable dbus-daemon.service systemctl --no-reload --global disable dbus-daemon.service systemctl --no-reload enable dbus-broker.service systemctl --no-reload --global enable dbus-broker.service fi This dbus-broker %post scriplet seems is only swapping started services but does not stops dbus-daemon and starts dbus-broker if dbus-daemon is already runimg. At the same time because in spec file is missing uninstall dbus-daemon by missing "Obsoletes: dbus-daemon" below %triggerpostun -- dbus-daemon systemctl --no-reload preset dbus-broker.service systemctl --no-reload --global preset dbus-broker.service has not been activated as well. IMO implementing whole transition with leaving both old and new packages installed seems is wrong. Solution: login after all in single mode and execute "systemctl enable dbus-broker" than reboot. Other problem is that dnf and rpm are executing batch of packages scriplets not the same order with other operations. Breaking rpm semantics by dnf is kind of asking for troubles. kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx