Re: Ursa Major (modules in buildroot) enablement

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On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 8:10 AM Vít Ondruch <vondruch@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> Dne 12. 11. 18 v 13:43 Stephen Gallagher napsal(a):
> > On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 4:50 AM Vít Ondruch <vondruch@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dne 09. 11. 18 v 16:28 Stephen Gallagher napsal(a):
> >>> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 9:53 AM Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>> Raphael Groner wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Kevin,
> >>>>>> * that no package may ever be module-only, but
> >>>>>> modules can only be used for non-default
> >>>>>> versions.
> >>>>> That statement doesn't make any sense for me. Can you explain, please? How
> >>>>> should modules live without packages in background? We'd already discussed
> >>>>> this in another thread.
> >>>> I don't think you understood the sentence I wrote.
> >>>>
> >>>> The current state is that we can have:
> >>>> main repo: no package foo, no package libfoo (but many other packages)
> >>>> module foo-1: foo-1.8.10, libfoo-1.8.12
> >>>> module foo-2: foo-2.0.0, libfoo-2.0.1
> >>>> but the "main repo: no package foo, no package libfoo" part is what I am
> >>>> objecting to, especially if libfoo is used by more packages than just foo.
> >>>>
> >>>> I want to require the main repo to contain some version of libfoo, and other
> >>>> packages (from the main repo or from modules other than foo) should be
> >>>> required to use the version in the main repo and not in some non-default
> >>>> module.
> >>> This is literally the exact way things work today, except that instead
> >>> of "the main repo", we treat it as "the main repo OR the default
> >>> stream of the module".
> >>>
> >>> Nothing in the main repo is permitted to use anything that is not
> >>> available in the main repo or a default module stream at runtime. Full
> >>> stop.
> >>>
> >>> The case of Ursa Major is special: it's addressing the case where we
> >>> may have some *build-time* requirements that are not in the default
> >>> repo.
> >>
> >> I might be missing something, but how do you want to enforce this ^^?
> >> This sounds that although build succeeds, runtime might fail later,
> >> because of missing dependencies. This might not happen for Go you used
> >> as an example, because it is statically linked, but it must be the case
> >> for other dynamically linked libraries.
> >>
> > Well, it *should* be enforced in Bodhi
>
>
> This rather important detail is not mentioned anywhere (at least quick
> grep for 'bodhi' and 'dep' over the two tickets from initial email did
> not revealed anything).
>
>
> > with the dependency-check test
> > (dist.rpmdeplint). It should see that the packages won't be
> > installable and once we get gating turned back on, it will enforce
> > that the package cannot go to stable.
>
>
> The dependency check is not blocking ATM, is it?
>

To quote myself "once we get gating turned back on, it will enforce
that the package cannot go to stable."

I'd prefer to assume that anyone who knows to request a build-time dep
would be sufficiently informed about their package to also know if it
would need that as a runtime dep and wouldn't blindly submit it,
though.
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