Once upon a time, seth vidal <skvidal@xxxxxxxxxxxx> said: > Packages have been removed in every release. This isn't new. In the past, packages were removed because they were no longer functional, not widely used, etc. They weren't just pushed to another location, they were dropped altogether. What we are seeing now is a large scale dumping of packages with the excuse that they can go to Extras. However, since Extras isn't available at install, ISOs are not available for download, and anaconda can't handle dependencies, currently running software can be broken by upgrades. -- Chris Adams <cmadams@xxxxxxxxxx> Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.