On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 12:29 AM Máirín Duffy <duffy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > I just couldn't use it for day-to-day communication. Not necessarily any > > single thing, but lots and lots of fundamentals. How do I get a list of new > > threads? How do I get a list of threads I've read but which have new > > responses, and ideally show only the new responses? How can I mute a thread > > I don't want to be alerted on? How do I get to the next thread from the > > *bottom* of a thread I just read? How can I search... usefully at all? My > > point isn't to rag on HyperKitty, but I could definitely go on. > > Please do. Neal and I are starting up an effort. I reached out to Abhilash, the upstream lead, last night on the devel list and he was very responsive to this idea. He's already created a gitlab subproject for our efforts upstream. > > > I tried for a while to file suggestions and bug reports, but especially > > after the extra two years it took to even get deployed, it was *very* clear > > there were no resources for ongoing development from Red Hat, no significant > > non-RH Fedora development, and no meaningful outside development either. > > Basic things like https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/issues/64 didn't > > even get *responses*. So, I stuck with my previous email client setup. > > > > And the thing is, it's *not just me*. Take a look at > > > > It is the 19th of the month. Not a single vote on our most busy mailing > > list. The same is true for every other list I looked at. People just aren't > > using this. > > Matthew, the target user for Hyperkitty isn't a devel-list reader. Can you share more information about the target audience? I read through the non-install docs at hyperkitty.readthedocs.io which is where the Gitlab project sent me. I could only find statements about the shortcomings with Pipermail the project was trying to fix. I did not see a target user statement or find one for Pipermail. Thanks, bex > > ~m > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- Brian (bex) Exelbierd | bexelbie@xxxxxxxxxx | bex@xxxxxxxxx Fedora Community Action & Impact Coordinator @bexelbie | http://www.winglemeyer.org _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx