On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 03:53:06AM -0000, Máirín Duffy wrote: > But we can file bugs against Discourse and they will be magically and > quickly fixed to our satisfaction, yes? Of course not. However: development is very active. https://github.com/discourse/discourse/commits/master > I'm concerned that those proposing Discourse seem to not have used > Hyperkitty at length. As you know, I was very excited about HyperKitty. I *did* try it very seriously at first, but not at length, because it quickly became apparent that it wasn't really up to the task of being my primary interface to email. I just couldn't use it for day-to-day communication. Not necessarily any single thing, but lots and lots of fundamentals. How do I get a list of new threads? How do I get a list of threads I've read but which have new responses, and ideally show only the new responses? How can I mute a thread I don't want to be alerted on? How do I get to the next thread from the *bottom* of a thread I just read? How can I search... usefully at all? My point isn't to rag on HyperKitty, but I could definitely go on. I tried for a while to file suggestions and bug reports, but especially after the extra two years it took to even get deployed, it was *very* clear there were no resources for ongoing development from Red Hat, no significant non-RH Fedora development, and no meaningful outside development either. Basic things like https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/issues/64 didn't even get *responses*. So, I stuck with my previous email client setup. And the thing is, it's *not just me*. Take a look at https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/ right now. Every single thread shows a "meh" face and "+0/-0". It says Most popular discussions No vote has been cast this month (yet). It is the 19th of the month. Not a single vote on our most busy mailing list. The same is true for every other list I looked at. People just aren't using this. I *really* think HyperKitty has potential. But we can't run on potential. Discourse is a pure open source project that is *really catching on and successful*. It's not perfect either, of course, but we're way better off aligning with something with momentum. -- Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Fedora Project Leader _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
