Hi, Máirín. On Friday, 19 October 2018 at 05:43, Máirín Duffy wrote: [...] > I believe quite strongly (and have from the start when I first heard > of the project) that Discourse's basic UX model is fundamentally > flawed. If we deploy discourse and roll it out, we *may* get new > users, but as noted in this thread, we will lose existing ones. > Participating in upstream effort on Discourse, improving it, etc is > foolish bc the fundamental model is broken. Agreed. Well said. [...] > There is no reason a social media timeline like experience for the > teenagers is not possible using email as the underlying system. Jabber > never really took off, except Google Hangouts and FB messenger both > used it (no idea if they still do.) They used to, but no longer. Both have (d)evolved into their own proprietary protocols. For FB, there's a plugin for pidgin/libpurple that actually works quite well (purple-facebook package). [...] > I think it's a better idea to use a tool based on open standards, that > allows users to use the client experience that works best for them. If > you try to force everyone down one road it won't work. I fully agree. If the company behind Discourse goes away for some reason and the project is not picked up by community, we'll end up having to support it ourselves and I don't think we have resources for this. I don't think e-mail is going away anytime soon. Regards, Dominik -- Fedora https://getfedora.org | RPMFusion http://rpmfusion.org There should be a science of discontent. People need hard times and oppression to develop psychic muscles. -- from "Collected Sayings of Muad'Dib" by the Princess Irulan _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx