Re: Semi-serious proposal: drop all optional entries from comps

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On Tue, 2018-09-25 at 08:17 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote:
> 
> Dne 24.9.2018 v 19:32 Adam Williamson napsal(a):
> > On Mon, 2018-09-24 at 12:21 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote:
> > > Just FTR, some while ago, I proposed to drop comps entirely:
> > > 
> > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/ISCIB67JKW7WBC74KA4DSCAP6AZOUY5G/
> > That...doesn't seem like a very serious proposal at all, given that you
> > didn't suggest *in any way* how we would replace the critical functions
> > it's currently performing. Are you suggesting metapackages?
> 
> Well I proposed "drop comps entirely (or at least trim them down
> significantly)". At least the second part is in line with your request I
> believe.
> 
> And I am not speaking necessarily about "metapackages". But we should
> really start using Recommends more and especially Suggest is unused at
> all. E.g. in comps, there is "Ruby on Rails" group installing bunch of
> packages. There is no reason to not have these dependencies specified in
> rubygem-rails (which already exists and has its purpose no matter if
> there are comps or not) via Suggests for example. The only issue AFAIK
> is there is no real support for Suggests in DNF :/

How would this work in the identified use case of 'package managers
displaying groups of packages for browsing'? Would the package managers
have to somehow generate these views on the fly from Suggests?
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