Re: Orphaning some Java packages

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>> Mikolaj Izdebski wrote:
>> 
>> This is exactly what I feared when the modules were first proposed: 
>> essential packages moving to modules only.
>> 
>> I think this is absolutely a step in the wrong direction. Things like "ant" 
>> are essential parts of a distribution. They cannot sit in some module with 
>> arbitrary branches that can be EOLed at any time.
>> 
>>         Kevin Kofler

As far as I can understand the modules idea and while looking into those yaml files of ant and cmake for instance, I fail see why modules should work without any spec file and therefore also why without rpmbuild. The modules idea seems to be more about how to have a possibility to build a bunch of packages in their own dependency tree for a custom branch (and on which base system that branch should ever work). So in my opinion, modules can never work without any base system built completely from without modules.
What I like about modules is that it obsoletes the need to check for the target distribution inside of the spec file (that's now handled with a branch in git). What I don't like is that all dependencies have to get repeated in the yaml file. What real problem do we try to solve?
Please calm down and just my 5ct.
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