On Mon, 2018-09-24 at 00:57 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Neal Gompa wrote: > > This is where I think that transforming comps into metapackages would > > probably solve the remaining issues we have with the current workflow. > > I think metapackages could work for the distro composes, where ACL > enforcement is wanted (so we would remove @group usage from kickstarts > entirely and use the metapackages instead), but not for self-serve > categorization of the average niche leaf package. The metapackage would not > be open to all packagers (at most to provenpackagers), so it would just mean > you would have to send a pull request to the metapackage rather than to > fedora-comps. That would not really make things easier. You could use > Supplements (reverse weak dependencies) to self-serve-add your package to > the metapackage, but I am not sure that we would want such widespread use of > Supplements. Yeah, I think now we're extending the discussion a bit, any 'solution' really needs to address this use case problem. We're doing multiple really quite different things with package groups, and a significant part of the current awkwardness is that they're not really separable as they should be. I think some kind of easy, self-service, fairly sloppily'-controlled' system is fine for the "let's let package managers give some sort of categorized browsing catalog" use case. It's certainly not fine for the "let's build the distribution" use case. It would be kinda nuts for the distro to be built out of categories that any packager can tag any package into at any time, for instance. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx