Re: F29 hidden GRUB, problem testing and how to unhide

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On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 6:55 PM, Chris Murphy <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 6:48 PM, Adam Williamson
> <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 18:45 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
>>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 6:37 PM, Adam Williamson
>>> <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> > On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 20:09 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
>>> > > Hi,
>>> > >
>>> > > On 18-09-18 17:28, Chris Murphy wrote:
>>> > > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 8:57 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
>>> > > > <zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> > > > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 08:36:32AM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
>>> > > > > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 4:56 AM, Hans de Goede <hdegoede@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> > > > > > > Hi,
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > On 18-09-18 01:12, Chris Murphy wrote:
>>> > > > > > > > I've got a Fedora 29 Silverblue installation in a VM.
>>> > > > > What kind of VM is it?
>>> > > >
>>> > > > qemu/kvm using virt-manager
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I am not using direct kernel boot. The grub command line, which is the
>>> > > > only thing that has that command line, is passed onto the kernel and I
>>> > > > can see that in dmesg - which would not be the case with direct kernel
>>> > > > boot, if grub were being skipped.
>>> > >
>>> > > Ok, I've managed to reproduce this in a classic BIOS boot using VM and
>>> > > then after updating grub2 to 2.02-58 and running grub2-mkinstall the
>>> > > problem went away. It looks like this somehow for broken in one specific
>>> > > grub2 build and then fixed again with anyone from the rhboot group
>>> > > realizing it was broken in the interim.
>>> > >
>>> > > Please try upgrading to grub2-2.02-58 from updates-testing and if
>>> > > you are using classic BIOS boot also run grub2-mkinstall after this.
>>> >
>>> > Note, I can't reproduce this with an install of Beta RC3 Workstation
>>> > live to a BIOS vm in virt-manager. F8 works every time to bring up the
>>> > boot menu (yes, I checked that if I *don't* press F8, the boot menu
>>> > *doesn't* show up, too).
>>> >
>>> > Perhaps this is Silverblue-specific somehow?
>>>
>>> No I reproduced the problem with beta 1.3 in both BIOS and UEFI VMs
>>> using virt-manager. I tried ESC, Shift, F8, space - both holding, and
>>> rapid pressing. *shrug*
>>
>> That's odd, it definitely works for me...
>>
>> given the confusion here, I'm sending the RC4 request without grub2
>> -58. If we wind up finding more blockers, maybe it can go into RC5...
>
> I'm not finding a criterion requiring either the key reveal feature to
> work; or for the failed boot detection to work. Seems like that might
> need a tweak. Sure, anything that breaks boot and ability to login is
> itself a blocker anyway.



By the way, can we get some clarification as to the scope of the
hidden grub menu change? I think it should be restricted to
Workstation only. And not extend to anything else, including even
Silverblue (yes it's a workstation variant but there are way too many
major differences between silverblue startup and assembly behavior
that totally obviates hiding the grub menu being a good idea). I'm
pretty sure Server and Cloud people were not in favor of hiding the
grub menu.



-- 
Chris Murphy
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