On 09/11/18 11:52, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote:
On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 16:48, Petr Viktorin <pviktori@xxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:pviktori@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
[..]
These numbers hide an important fact: many things currently come with
RPMs for both python2 and python3.
More detailed statistics (based on SRPMs, not binary RPMs):
http://fedora.portingdb.xyz/
Graph with historical data: http://fedora.portingdb.xyz/history/
> In other words trying currently announcing python2 as depricated
is at
> least a bit .. odd.
Do you know a better way to make the python2 numbers go down?
Would *you* be interested in maintaining python2 past 2020, with no
upstream support and 3415 dependent packages?
No and no .. of course :)
I've been only trying to say that with current numbers about balance
between python 2 and 3 packages are making announcement about
deprecation a bit to early. Only this and nothing more :P
When will it not be too early?
I fully understand effort to migrate ASAP to python 3.
IMO it should be announced only kind of call to migrate as much as
possible with completing set of advises abut typical porting issues.
Python 3 is now almost 10 years old. The "Python 3 as Default" change
was for Fedora 21. Python's documentation has a section on porting.
There are printed books about porting. There's a comprehensive guide at
portingguide.readthedocs.io. Fedora's Python packaging guidelines say
"If it supports only python2 then [...] upstream SHOULD be contacted and
encouraged to rectify this issue." -- have you done that?
We're honestly tired of making calls to migrate. What would another one
of those accomplish?
Forming ad hoc team people which could help porting code to python 3 may
IMO be useful.
Try the Python SIG!
I have in my set of packages one of those which will require migration
to python 3 as well.
Why have you waited so long?
It is mc package which has amazon s3 vfs backend as and
I'm thinking about create mc-s3 (or mc-vfs-s3) subpackage to separate
python2 dependent parts.
Theoretically as now aws-cli AFAIK is already ported to python 3 it
should be easy however I haven't now access to AWS systems to test s3
bucket access over mc.
Other possible option may be rewrite s3 vfs backent to use some other
(non python based script .. and backend tool).
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