Re: Fedora 30 System-Wide Change proposal: Remove glibc-all-langpacks from buildroot

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On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 01:55:54PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 12:38:48PM +0000, Petr Pisar wrote:
> > On 2018-08-22, Ben Cotton <bcotton@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Remove_glibc-langpacks-all_from_buildroot
> > >
> > > glibc-minimal-langpack is added to @Buildsystem group and installed
> > > into the minimal buildroot instead of glibc-all-langpacks. Packages
> > > which need more locales than plain C/C.UTF-8/POSIX need to pull them
> > > in through BuildRequires.
> > >
> > I already wrote it in previous thread about this change but it seems
> > nobody takes me seriosly. Once again:

When you wrote about mock configuration previously, I answered:
> Thanks, that's a good point. Do you know where this is configured?

This was me taking the issue seriously. I haven't started working on
this yet because it got bumped to F30, but I keep a list of all the
points raised, including this one.

> > These three locales are not enough because Brew builders have
> > en_US.UTF-8 locale that is propagated to mock and then into rpmbuild.
> > That means all the build have set en_US.UTF-8 locale. If you stop
> > installing the locale things will blow up.
> > 
> > Either install glibc-langpack-en or change Brew locale first or edit
> > every spec file to set LC_ALL explicitly.
> 
> NB, some apps will explicitly force locale to en_US.UTF-8 in order to
> ensure their output artifacts are stable & repeatable, and/or to work
> around bugs in tools they run.

If they do it even though a different locale is configured, they are buggy.
Worst case, if some packages are built using tools which simply
require en_US.UTF-8, a BR: glibc-langpack-en can be added to them.
I don't expected that this would be necessary in more than a handful of cases.

Zbyszek
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