On Mon, 2018-08-06 at 13:15 +0200, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > On Mon, 06 Aug 2018 10:57:31 +0200, Petr Viktorin wrote: > > On 08/05/18 14:01, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > > > That is all together messy. This is why Microsoft has their debug > > > build of > > > their whole OS - Windows - called Checked Build: > > > https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/devte > > > st/checked-and-free-build-differences > > > > The main issue with --with-pydebug is that it changes the ABI, i.e. > > all > > extensions need to be re-built specifically for it (and debug > > extensions > > outside the standard library aren't usually packaged in Fedora). > > That makes > > it much less useful than if it just used less optimizations. Petr: IMHO, it's much *more* useful: it checks for leaked objects, which is the most painful issue to deal with when debugging Python extensions. That was my motivation for adding it. > > That confirms the whole OS "Checked Build" variant would solve even > this > problem. Jan: In my view, it's not a problem, it's a feature. An OS-wide change wouldn't turn on "--with-pydebug" for Python, unless it was directly coded into the specfile. The change to the ABI is due to two new fields with the base struct for python objects. Dave _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/HJGZIFX56BJAAUKOHTQSMHGOPI6WE7S3/