Re: [HEADS UP] Removal of GCC from the buildroot

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Dne 10.7.2018 v 09:42 Tomasz Kłoczko napsal(a):
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 at 06:37, David Tardon <dtardon@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> [..]
>>> My proposition is *not* to add gcc/g++ explicit to BuildReequires and
>>> use instead glibc-devel and libstdc++-devel modifications and ban use
>>> gcc/gcc-c++ in BuildRequires (in most of the cases all current
>>> gcc/g++
>>> BuildRequires could be replaced by glibc-devel and libstdc++-devel).
>>> All because it is not possible to use C compiler without glibc-devel
>>> and C++ compiler without libstdc++-devel.
>> It might be a surprise for you, but there are other implementations of
>> C and C++ standard libraries. If I try to imagine Fedora wanting to
>> switch to clang in the future,
> It is not but it is quite interesting how you are trying to move
> technical discussion to kind of "argumentum ad hominem" field.
>
>> I can very well imagine it wanting to
>> switch to libc++ at the same time... So your "improved" proposal is,
>> in fact, just as arbitrary and choice-limiting as the one you
>> criticize.
> So you want to tell that putting explicit gcc/gcc-g++ BRs makes such
> switching (which is less important) or test build (which is way more
> interesting and valuable options) easier and/or opens some option?
> Really?

Explicit "BR: gcc" definitely does the switch to other compiler easier,
because one of the main question for this change was actually "how many
packages actually requires C/C++" and it was quite tricky to answer such
question. Now it will much easier.

And of course if we can switch from no requires to "BR: gcc", then it
won't be harder to switch to "BR: clang". If we were going to switch to
another compiler, it even gives us the choice so selectively stay with
gcc , where previously it could be ambiguous which compiler is used ....

BTW I am deliberately not going to read the rest of you email, because
it is simple too much words.

V.
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