Dne 10.7.2018 v 09:42 Tomasz Kłoczko napsal(a): > On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 at 06:37, David Tardon <dtardon@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > [..] >>> My proposition is *not* to add gcc/g++ explicit to BuildReequires and >>> use instead glibc-devel and libstdc++-devel modifications and ban use >>> gcc/gcc-c++ in BuildRequires (in most of the cases all current >>> gcc/g++ >>> BuildRequires could be replaced by glibc-devel and libstdc++-devel). >>> All because it is not possible to use C compiler without glibc-devel >>> and C++ compiler without libstdc++-devel. >> It might be a surprise for you, but there are other implementations of >> C and C++ standard libraries. If I try to imagine Fedora wanting to >> switch to clang in the future, > It is not but it is quite interesting how you are trying to move > technical discussion to kind of "argumentum ad hominem" field. > >> I can very well imagine it wanting to >> switch to libc++ at the same time... So your "improved" proposal is, >> in fact, just as arbitrary and choice-limiting as the one you >> criticize. > So you want to tell that putting explicit gcc/gcc-g++ BRs makes such > switching (which is less important) or test build (which is way more > interesting and valuable options) easier and/or opens some option? > Really? Explicit "BR: gcc" definitely does the switch to other compiler easier, because one of the main question for this change was actually "how many packages actually requires C/C++" and it was quite tricky to answer such question. Now it will much easier. And of course if we can switch from no requires to "BR: gcc", then it won't be harder to switch to "BR: clang". If we were going to switch to another compiler, it even gives us the choice so selectively stay with gcc , where previously it could be ambiguous which compiler is used .... BTW I am deliberately not going to read the rest of you email, because it is simple too much words. V. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/WAECT2NECXW4MMSHSLZJUVQHV7TZDC3I/