On Wed, 2018-06-13 at 00:45 -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: > On Wed, 6 Jun 2018, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos wrote: > > > I think the debate here is whether fedora (and in general operating > > systems) can afford to be stricter than the browsers. As an OS our > > attack surface is much larger than the browser setup, and thus it > > makes > > sense (to me), to be more careful. > > Your legacy interaction will also be much larger. Like connecting to > your home wifi router's webgui. > > > Can we afford to break a significant part of our users? Of course > > not, > > but I think that this change is eventually happening, especially > > with > > TLS1.3 expected to be deployed widely, and it seems to me that we > > only > > wait to see who will do the first step. > > I don't think TLS 1.3 will see a wide deployment immediately. Sure, > the > famous top websites and top browsers will, but enterprises will not. > And > especially those with any kind of loggin/auditing requirements cannot > even allow TLS 1.3 with ephemeral DH on their network. > > I would personally first try and disable TLS 1.0 in f29 and see how > much > problems that generates. Then in f30 or f31 disable TLS 1.1. Except from the internet website statistics the TLS-1.1 only or as maximum TLS version is not deployed. The sites are either TLS-1.0 max version or they support also TLS-1.2. So this will not make almost any difference and the impact on compatibility will be practically the same as disabling even TLS-1.1. -- Tomáš Mráz No matter how far down the wrong road you've gone, turn back. Turkish proverb [You'll know whether the road is wrong if you carefully listen to your conscience.] _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/KTJ64X46W5B37VYDDBV3KNKDRANJU3WA/