Re: F29 System Wide Change: Strong crypto settings: phase 2

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On Wed, 6 Jun 2018, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos wrote:

I think the debate here is whether fedora (and in general operating
systems) can afford to be stricter than the browsers. As an OS our
attack surface is much larger than the browser setup, and thus it makes
sense (to me), to be more careful.

Your legacy interaction will also be much larger. Like connecting to
your home wifi router's webgui.

Can we afford to break a significant part of our users? Of course not,
but I think that this change is eventually happening, especially with
TLS1.3 expected to be deployed widely, and it seems to me that we only
wait to see who will do the first step.

I don't think TLS 1.3 will see a wide deployment immediately. Sure, the
famous top websites and top browsers will, but enterprises will not. And
especially those with any kind of loggin/auditing requirements cannot
even allow TLS 1.3 with ephemeral DH on their network.

I would personally first try and disable TLS 1.0 in f29 and see how much
problems that generates. Then in f30 or f31 disable TLS 1.1. But I
suspect fedora itself not to be the problem. The real problems will hit
RHEL/CentOS in the enterprise deployments. So even with a success in
fedora, I would be very careful with drawing any conclusions for
enterprise use.

Paul
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