Re: F29 System Wide Change: i686 Is For x86-64

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On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 6:19 AM Jan Pazdziora <jpazdziora@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 10:35:34AM +0200, Jan Kurik wrote:
> > = Proposed System Wide Change: i686 Is For x86-64 =
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/i686_Is_For_x86-64
> >
> >
> > Owner(s):
> >   * Florian Weimer <fweimer at redhat dot com>
> >
> >
> > Fedora builds its i686 packages for use on x86-64 systems as multi-lib RPMs.
> >
> >
> >
> > == Detailed description ==
> > Currently, the i686 RPM packages are built in such a way that they are
> > compatible with very old i686 systems, such as the Pentium III.  The
> > only addition over the i686/Pentium Pro baseline is a requirement to
> > support long NOPs, for Intel CET.  However, the majority of
> > installations of i686 packages is for use on x86_64 systems, as
> > multi-lib RPMs.  Furthermore, there are reports that the i686 kernel
> > does not run stable on old hardware which is not x86-64-capable (
> > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/x86@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/thread/ZHV6I4IEO7GRYAZ4TUMO5VH2ZHLCNJZQ/
> > ).
> > This proposal suggests to accept this reality and build the i686
> > packages in such a way that they require the ISA level of (early)
> > x86-64 CPUs.
> >
> >
> > == Scope ==
> > * Proposal owners:
> > Adjust the redhat-rpm-config, gcc, and glibc packages to switch to the
> > new compiler flags. Except for mstackrealign, there is substantial
> > experience with this configuration downstream.
> >
> > * Other developers:
> > Other developers can enable SSE2 optimization in their packages if
> > they want, where this has been a compile-time option only.
> >
> > * Release engineering:
> > https://pagure.io/releng/issues/7543 #7543
> >
> > ** List of deliverables: TBD
> >
> > * Policies and guidelines:
> > i686 is no longer a primary architecture. The Packaging Guidelines do
> > not currently require support for non-SSE2 x86 systems, so no change
> > is required there.
>
> Could the title and nature of this proposed change be modified to
>
>         Dropping support for non-SSE2 x86 systems
>
> rather than removing i686 from primary architectures and implying that
> we no longer do i686-only distribution? Reading this thread, the
> SSE2/non-SSE2 distinction is where the change is aiming anyway, isn't
> it?

i686 is already no longer a primary architecture.  We do not block
releases on i686-only issues, which is the only distinction "primary"
has these days.

josh
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