On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 3:08 PM, Jeff Backus <jeff.backus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 3:53 PM, Stephen John Smoogen <smooge@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: >> >> On 4 June 2018 at 14:18, Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 02:01:13PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: >> >> > >>support long NOPs, for Intel CET. However, the majority of >> >> > >>installations of i686 packages is for use on x86_64 systems, as >> >> > >>multi-lib RPMs. >> >> > >Based on what data? >> >> > The mirror data I've seen, but it's really outdated at this point. >> >> There are currently about 275,000 IP address checking in with x86_64 >> >> systems every day. and 25,000 x86_32. So it's about 11:1. >> > >> > Here's a breakdown as arch percentage over time: >> > >> > https://twitter.com/mattdm/status/1003701941724172295 >> > >> > Looks like the 50:50 point was about five years ago. >> > >> >> For F26,F27,F28 for the first 150 days of the year: >> >> Days: 150 >> X86_32: 3769.4 avg/day >> X86_64: 159540 avg/day >> Ratio (32/64) 0.0236267 (1:42) >> >> The reason is that the majority of i386 users are not moving off of >> dead/old releases. For the month of May >> >> Avg/day release >> 28623.7 epel6 >> 16009.2 epel5 >> 4043.37 f25 >> 3318.53 f20 >> 2759.2 f08 >> 2127.8 f23 >> 1589.63 f27 >> 1401.7 f22 >> 1371 f26 >> 1277.53 f21 >> 1056.33 f28 >> 874.2 f24 >> 733.8 f14 >> 562.533 f19 >> 509.067 f11 >> >> In comparison, x86_64 is mostly living on the latest release: >> [smooge@data-analysis01 mirrors]$ grep '^2018-05-.* x86_64' out-2018 >> | awk '{print $3}' | sort | uniq -c | sort -bnr | head -n 15 | awk >> '{print $1/30, $2}' >> 671455 epel7 >> 605436 epel6 >> 87367.4 f27 >> 60159.7 f28 >> 37857.6 epel5 >> 34421.4 f26 >> 27011 f25 >> 19115.4 f23 >> 14292.2 f24 >> 8627.47 f22 >> 6603.3 f20 >> 5863.47 f21 >> 1413.37 modular_f28 >> 1091.87 f19 >> 868.833 f18 >> >> The 30 is because only 30 days of May have been analyzed. [And yes >> there are still many Fedora 08 systems showing up for x86_32] >> >> Personally I think the number of those systems which are running >> Pentium III hardware with the latest OS are probably already on this >> mailing list.. I expect that they would also be looking at only >> needing to support a small subset of the software since running >> GNOME/KDE with usually 128->512 MB of RAM is not possible. It also >> would probably want a very stripped down installer since anaconda is >> aimed at 'current' hardware... probably something like the images that >> ARM-32 makes. > > > Very good point! > > And wow! Fedora 08 was quite some time ago... :) It was, and it was used as a long time as a base image for VMs somewhere, which is probably where a lot of those numbers are coming from. It would be really interesting if we could see a breakdown of VM vs raw metal, as I am guessing a whole lot of the i686 is VM traffic. I know I have at least 4 of those VMs per release checking in just for kernel testing bits. For a long time there was also a trend of people running 32bit guests wherever they could to reduce memory footprint. > > -- > Jeff Backus > jeff.backus@xxxxxxxxx > http://github.com/jsbackus > > > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/DZW44V5B32MCO7AKTBSMT3HMTKRQRKTF/ > _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/AZA7QEFYYV5X4PJNR3JPQIRAEOBZYHXU/
