Hi, Can I suggest two possible approaches... 1) we aren't willing to remove anything that was in FC3 due to the upgrade problem, so we basically have to remove the stuff that's new since FC3; just do that 2) maybe we are willing to consider removing anything, if so I propose this approach: - create "profiles" of complete sets of packages that some common audiences would want; avoid duplicate-functionality/ indecision as much as possible in those - try to include/exclude complete profiles for example, a complete "corporate desktop", "mail server", "print server", "file server", "sysadmin workstation", "C programming environment", "java programming environment", etc. dump entire use cases like that; and dump multiple ways to do a single use case. Rationale: it's stupid to include half of a use case, since you are already causing that person to go to Extras, you may as well send them there for everything. Havoc