On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 1:58 PM, Ken Coar <kcoar@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > At 2018-05-31T02:36, Jason L Tibbitts III irritated the > Akashic Field to say: >> >> If a user is technical, and our documentation is reasonably good, >> then they should be able to achieve the level of verbosity they want. > > When you need to get into single-user mode, the documentation > is probably not to hand. :-) > > How about making this a yes/no installation option? With > a default of not changing the current behaviour? > > "Do you want to always see the Grub menu, even when you > only have a single kernel installed on your bloody machine? > Choosing 'Y' will retain the behaviour exhibited by prior > versions of Fedora. [Yn]" :-) No, we need to some to some kind of consensus. Making the already overly complicated installer more complicated is not a good plan for either users or testers. And contra snark for your snark: that's pretty adversarial and thus shitty UI/UX wording, that will at best give translation and documentation folks a headache, and simultaneously gives a majority of Fedora users no f'n clue what behavior is even under discussion. What's GRUB? What's a single kernel? My prior Fedora had behavior Q because 4 years ago I modified it, forgot about that modification, and have never done a clean install since then, so my idea of "default" differs from the distro installation default. So yeah - no, no, and no. I wonder what percentage of users this change applies to. Most users I think are multibooting Workstation. And Atomic, Cloud, and Server products will all continue to need GRUB menu visibility by default. I see the change as probably benefiting a few and harming a few, and at least on the surface it appears to be a tie. And therefore I'd say it's not compelling enough of a change. -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/5U5EHMVHNDSUT2KHDDFYXFLVELQG6ZOI/
