On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 12:09:45PM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Hans de Goede <hdegoede@xxxxxxxxxx> said: > > On 31-05-18 15:08, Chris Adams wrote: > > >Once upon a time, Hans de Goede <hdegoede@xxxxxxxxxx> said: > > >>And for F30, single OS install we get: > > >> > > >>1) grub menu not shown, 0 second timeout, no way to get to the menu > > >>2) grub menu shown with 5 sec timeout after a failed boot > > > > > >If I know I want the menu (say I need to boot single-user to fix > > >something), how would I do that in this setup? > > > > Hopefully what ever you want to fix will count as a "failed boot" > > if it requires single user mode. > > Hmm... not really. For example (just off the top of my head): lost root > password. Without it, you won't be able to set any "next boot is > special" option, so resetting root's password would now require rescue > media. > > I'd say I'm against this part of your proposal. I understand the > reasoning, but it just seems like too much restriction to shave off a > small amount of time. You mentioned it "could take several seconds" for > EFI to initialize USB, but what is the normal time, for a typical > desktop or notebook with just a keyboard and mouse attached? I agree. Another use case is that failed graphics initialization may not count as "failed boot". _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/CWA5Z3IYQQURAIFFNNCLE5TXXSGXRC5E/