Does this discussion had any outcomes? I tried to find any conclusions in the thread but I missed to spot them. I am asking this because I was redirected to this thread after I opened a bug on RHEL for the same issue, bug that was closed hours later as NOTABUG, something I do not agree with. What do we need to do to make Fedora do the right thing (add it to the top of the list), just like Debian/Ubuntu. I am sure that they had similar discussions and in the end they decided to do the right thing. RHEL bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1583227 (bad description, see comments). PS. For those worried that their user installed tools (~/.local/bin) may introduce surprises, here is a hint: you can always run commands in a non-login shell which would only use the system default PATH which does not include the user one. This is the right way to isolate yourself from user config, not by avoiding to fix the bashrc PATH order. Remember that user can always edit his profile files and modify the PATH order, something that would have the same kind of effect as installing the tools. Thanks Sorin Sbarnea _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/CHGANTE6DYFBB6K73BL4HJH7SJGA3MZJ/