Re: Valid use case for modularity or not?

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On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 3:44 PM Neal Gompa <ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 9:35 AM Fabio Valentini <decathorpe@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:

> > Hi all,

> > I think I finally found a scenario where building some of my (and
> others') packages as modules would be beneficial.

> > The situation is:

> > - The syncthing package has a lot of golang dependencies.
> > - Some of them are too old in fedora, even in fedora rawhide, and some
of
> them have not been touched in years.
> > - However, some other packages may depend on those older versions, or
the
> packagers don't have time to check for compatibility.

> > The idea for a solution I came up with:

> > - Build syncthing as a module.
> > - Add "syncthing" branches to all incompatible dependencies (I guess I
> have to request commit/admin access to do that for packages I don't own
> yet?).
> > - Update those branches to use the exact same commit as the vendored
> sources in upstream syncthing.
> > - Use those modules as dependencies for the syncthing module.

> > Is that a valid, feasible use case of modularity?


> You can kind of pigeonhole it into that, but I think you might be better
> served by vendoring things you can't use from Fedora packages and going
> from there.

> The problem is that you're touching other people's packages and hoping
they
> don't make those branches go away. And at the end of it, the output would
> be a single package that lives outside of the normal repo metadata and
only
> modularity-enabled clients would be able to install it.

> The excludes most of the package managers that people can use in Fedora
> right now.

> It might make sense if you could describe which dist-git commit to use in
> the module definition, regardless of what's actually released in the main
> repos, and it would just build from those until you upgrade it. That would
> avoid the need for branches in all the golang packages you need for
> syncthing.

I don't think that would be the case.
An upstream commit that's newer than anything that has ever been packaged
before for a fedora branch is never available, not even if I could target
other dist-git commits. That's why I thought of modularity.



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