Hi all, If you maintain any application in Fedora Infra (or outside) that tries to parse things out of RPM names, you might be interested in this. For those wondering where I've been spending most of my time the last few weeks: I've been deep in the internals of Bodhi fixing all kinds of issues I've found between it and Modularity (turns out enabling composing was just the beginning). At some point, I was informed that for modules, they are throwing all kinds of old assumptions out of the door. One of those is the good old Name-Version-Release in RPM land. Modules do not have an NVR, they have an NSVC: Name, Stream, Version, Context. Name is the name of the module ("nodejs"). Stream is a stream, like "6", "7" or "8", these are crucial for the parallel availability that modules are trying to accomplish. Version is a date/time stamp, used to indicate new versions in the same name-stream. Context is a hash of some information in the built module that makes it so that the nodejs-6-20170314 built for Fedora 28 has a different identifier than the one built for Fedora 29. There are some additional fields for installed things (arch and profile), but those aren't really important for things trying to parse/show module names I think. One of the interesting things they wanted to also allow: dashes in streams. As a consequence, when you get an N-S-V.C as modules are represented in Koji builds, doing a .rsplit('-', 2) will not give you Name, Stream, Version.Context per se. You could totally have a module called nodejs-my-stream-5-20170314.abcd, with name=nodejs, stream=my-stream-5, version=20170314, context=abcd. There is no way for you to independently figure out what the NSVC components are, you will need to ask Koji, and use its name, version and release fields (with name=name, version=stream, release=version(.context)). Also as a consequence, modules should not be dash-separated in anything the users see. For user consumption, they are Name:Stream:Version:Context, so you may need to manually convert between one representation and the other if you need to look up in koji or other systems versus display to users. Also, note that if you are touching older modules in Koji (e.g. because you go through all koji builds), modules before February 19th will be lacking the Context field. However, I've been told that those modules will not be used, so unless you or your app goes spelunking in koji (for fun and profit), you should never see those. I hope that this is useful information for anyone else finding themselves having to parse NVRs/NSVs. Regards, Patrick p.s.: This is a forward of my email sent originally to the Infra list. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx