Re: Why size of repositories metadata is too high in Fedora?

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On Friday, March 2, 2018 12:25:05 PM CET Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 5:05 AM, Pavel Raiskup <praiskup@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Friday, March 2, 2018 2:44:19 AM CET stan wrote:
> >> On Thu, 01 Mar 2018 14:29:45 -0000
> >> "Farhad Mohammadi Majd" <farhadbenyamin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hello, in Debian (9, stable), size of all the official repositories
> >> > metadata is maximum 10MB, while in Fedora, today I ran "dnf update"
> >> > for first time after installing Fedora 27
> >> > (Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-27-1.6) and it took 20+58MB for two
> >> > official repositories!
> >> >
> >> > It is really too high, why there is such difference? why don't
> >> > optimize it and fix this problem?
> >>
> >> I don't have any intimate knowledge of this.  But you are comparing
> >> apples and oranges.  Apt and dnf.  Either the format of the meta data
> >> must be very different for the two, or apt must send much less meta
> >> data.
> >
> > Yes, IMO the amount of information in metadata creates the difference.
> >
> >> You aren't alone in complaining about this.  Whenever an update occurs,
> >> all the meta data has to be downloaded again.  People on limited
> >> quantity connections find this onerous.  There has been discussion of
> >> making the meta data update an incremental update, but the format of
> >> meta data doesn't lend itself well to doing this.  And the delta files
> >> would put a lot of extra files on repo hosts.
> >
> > I doubt delta files for metadata would cause significant storage problems
> > (compare that with the size of RPMs).  You don't have to keep the deltas
> > forever, it would be matter of quality of implementation..
> >
> > Do we have some RFE bug for this, or some feature page?  This is #1 issue in
> > yum/dnf world for quite some time.
> >
> 
> There's an ongoing discussion in rpm-ecosystem@[1] and
> infrastructure@[2] about an optimized delta repodata format. So...
> It's coming. :)
> 
> [1]: http://lists.rpm.org/pipermail/rpm-ecosystem/2018-February/000541.html
> [2]: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/infrastructure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/thread/4TJOGXT35Q2UHWYQA66FCCHCF5DOEXO5/

Do we already have an RFE so I could subscribe to be informed about progress?

Pavel


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