On Mon, 2018-02-19 at 22:57 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2018-01-09 at 21:51 +0100, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 07:50:10PM +0000, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > > Well, true, but then just like every year, we'll wind up doing > > > > a lot of > > > > the spadework of fixing things to build with the new GCC. And > > > > probably > > > > at first some critical things will fail to build and that'll > > > > mess up > > > > the stability of the distro for a couple of weeks. I guess if > > > > everyone > > > > else is still loving that grind, hey. > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the cost of being "First". Fedora has long enjoyed a > > > tight coupling > > > with the GCC upstream. It's a symbiosis: they use our mass- > > > rebuild to help > > > identify any issues before GCC goes stable and in turn Fedora > > > gets to have > > > the newest compiler features before anyone else. > > > > To be fair, Ubuntu (or Debian or both, dunno) has already performed > > test mass > > rebuilds with GCC 8 prerelease some time ago and OpenSUSE usually > > performs them > > roughly at the same time as we do. We are likely the first one or > > one of > > the first ones to deploy it as a stable compiler in the distro and > > it is > > mutually beneficial both for the distro and for GCC. > > Just for the record, it is now 11pm the day before we are supposed to > branch Fedora 28, and I have spent the whole evening fixing > OpenColorIO's Python bindings to build with GCC 8: pdftex Segmentation fault in arches i686 and amrv7 when build gdal [1] gdal build fails and have broken deps, which makes openv broken deps , which make mlt broken. So I have a big chain of packages with broken deps and I can't do nothing [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1546913 Best regards, > https://github.com/imageworks/OpenColorIO/pull/518 > > only to find that it fails to build on i686 because since pdftex got > rebuilt with GCC 8 (OK, haven't confirmed that yet, but it's the most > obvious suspect), it's segfaulting: > > https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=25176488 > > Also noted by QuLogic trying to build R-htmltools: > > https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=25173683 > > So now I am running the build in an i686 mock so I can shell into the > mock and hopefully get a traceback of the pdftex crash and try to do > *something* about fixing it. > > This is the kind of 'spadework' I was talking about. (And I haven't > even mentioned any of the *other* cases we've hit). > -- > Adam Williamson > Fedora QA Community Monkey > IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . > net > http://www.happyassassin.net > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- Sérgio M. B. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx