On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 1:32 PM, Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, Feb 08, 2018 at 05:02:10PM +0100, Igor Gnatenko wrote: >> It seems that a lot of people have %file, %check, %build, %whatsoever >> in their changelog section. >> Is there any reason I should not go and automatically escape them? > > This seems like a lot of churn. If we're going to do this, let's go big > and get rid of RPM changelogs. > > When we have a package update, there are basically two different kinds > of changelog information. Well, three. > > First, there's the upstream changelog. We don't generally do much with > these except maybe package as %doc. > > Second, there's package maintainer changelogs. These are really > redundant with the dist-git log. We don't really need this anymore. > It's just a chore. > > Third, though, there's end-user information. Why should a user care > *This* is redundant with bodhi update info, at least if packagers fill > that out, and it often also duplicates upstream changelogs, *and* it > often also covers things like "fixes CVE-####' also carried the > specfile changelog. > > This is neither most helpful for user *nor* ideal for packages. Why > don't we drop changelogs entirely in favor of 1) using the dist-git > logs for specfile maintainers and 2) providing the end-user information > in a different way. This could be through specially formatted log lines > going with the commit, or it could be simply in a standard separate > file (`fedora.user-visible-changes`). Optionally, it could include both > a high level end-user summary, and a detailed description for sysadmins > and the curious. > > Wherever it lives, this would be read by Bodhi, so there's > would be need to enter it more than once. And, perhaps a DNF plugin > could be made to read and display this information for systems > administrators. I fully support the removal of RPM changelogs. However, you've missed two cases: 1) Rawhide, which doesn't go through bodhi 2) Fedora release upgrades, which don't go through bodhi Now, I would actually LOVE for Rawhide to go through bodhi but whatever. The release -> release upgrade isn't really solvable that way though. Someone else suggested changelogs could be inserted during koji build time. That would be interesting to look into. josh _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
