On Thursday, 18 January 2018 at 23:20, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > On Thu, 2018-01-18 at 23:04 +0100, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > > On Thursday, 18 January 2018 at 22:50, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > Does anybody know why we are still using %{?_isa} thing? > > > > > > DNF/libsolv forcefully install 64bit package for any 32bit package in > > > transaction. So it is not possible to get 32bit package without 64bit > > > counterpart. > > > > Huh? You can't be serious. I've been keeping a 32bit-only set of wine > > packages on my machine for quite some time and I'd be quite annoyed > > if I suddenly had to install all corresponding 64bit ones, too. > > Well, I am pretty serious. I think you just didn't notice all those 64bit > packages because you had them already installed. > > $ sudo dnf install wine > [â¦] > libatomic i686 7.2.1-6.fc28 rawhide 40 k > libatomic x86_64 7.2.1-6.fc28 rawhide 40 k > [â¦] Wrong. I keep close watch on what packages I have installed. I only have 32bit wine installed at the moment, so your statement seems untrue: $ rpm -qa wine\* |grep i686 |wc -l 3 $ rpm -qa wine\* |grep x86_64 |wc -l 0 > > When did you implement this change and for which Fedora release? > > Since DNF was implemented? Apparently it's not implemented like you described. [...] > > > So then what's the reason of using %{?_isa}? Just some old cruft from yum > > > era? > > > Can we drop it? Thoughts? > > > > The reason is to ensure 64bit subpackages dependency on main package > > won't be satisfied by a 32bit counterpart and vice-versa. This has > > always been the case. > > Except that 64bit package is always pulled in â no need for pulling 32bit > package. Yeah, requiring 32bit package from 64bit one (aka wine) is different > case (it doesn't really use %{?_isa}) and is valid one. I never said anything about cross-bitness requirements. You misunderstood. And I've just demonstrated that dnf doesn't always pull in 64bit package when 32bit counterpart is being installed. Regards, Dominik -- Fedora https://getfedora.org | RPMFusion http://rpmfusion.org There should be a science of discontent. People need hard times and oppression to develop psychic muscles. -- from "Collected Sayings of Muad'Dib" by the Princess Irulan _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx