One followup that should help people understand things: When someone pushes an update to a package that isn't in Atomic Host (or Workstation), *and* one is using rpm-ostree in "pure ostree" mode (i.e. you never ran `rpm-ostree install`), then checking for updates just uses libostree, which like any sane image system, makes this a very cheap operation. In the case of libostree, checking for "no changes" is just a few HTTP requests for tiny files. Say for example you've got a bunch of CentOS containers on your FAH system (IMO this is not just a valid use case but one I'd encourage) - you don't see an available update whenever a new Firefox or whatever appears. We were also doing ~two week batching for FAH updates before Bodhi started doing batching...the interaction between those really could be better...that's a whole other topic. Anyways though to finish the explanation: the second you do `rpm-ostree install libvirt` for example (as I have done on my home server), you're doing *both* systems; now libdnf comes into play, and it's the same RPM metadata from Fedora with all the same performance penalty. Smoothing out this dramatic cliff of a transition is part of the reason I'm working on rpm-ostree jigdo. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx