Re: F28 System Wide Change: AArch64 Server Promotion

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On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 5:53 PM, Stephen John Smoogen <smooge@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 8 January 2018 at 12:28, Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 08, 2018 at 09:16:05AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
>>> A significant miss here is 'testing'. Making an arch primary means we
>>> need to ensure we have the necessary resources to run all the relevant
>>> validation testing.
>>
>> Are there hardware needs here? (Like, not in the server room but in QA
>> team member's hands?)
>>
>
> I would say in both. We would need to make sure we have enough systems
> which openqa can reliably run on and we need to have some sort of
> system that testers can get a hand on. That would require a bit of a

There will be more than enough HW for openQA, we have two large
systems we'll put into the cloud (awaiting commissioning now the DC
migration is done) which will enable us to use AutoCloud (or what ever
it's replacement is) for VM/Docker testing, and a number of physical
systems for OpenQA.

> 'we expect this hardware to work and this is how you buy/get it' from
> the aarch64 team.. otherwise most everyone is going to come and ask
> why the raspberry pi 3 isn't supported (just like they did with the

The Raspberry Pi 3 *IS* supported on aarch64 [1]! As is the Pine64,
currently headless needs a serial console but by F-28 it will be
supported with basic console out for HDMI too, We support around 20
aarch64 SBCs in F-27 [1] and I expect that to likely double, or even
more than that, with F-28. Along with all the SBSA compliant hardware
etc.

I have the ability to get HW provided to people that are actually
going to use it for testing.... the problem I have here is that I
regularly give people hardware for testing and I get zero testing back
and Paul, myself and others still end up doing all the testing.....

> raspberry pi 1 and 2.) [I am not looking to rehash why it isn't ..
> more that is what most testers can get their hands on easily.. and it
> is not a aarch64 platform we support).

Err, RPi 0-2 are 32 bit only devices.... in the case of < 2 they're
ARMv6, and we support the RPi2 with 32 bit.... I don't see how any of
that is relevant to this conversation?

[1] https://nullr0ute.com/2017/11/overview-of-aarch64-sbc-support-in-fedora-27/
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