Re: Security updates and batched pushes

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On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 5:39 PM, Kevin Fenzi <kevin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 01/07/2018 08:01 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>>> The critera for bypassing batched is if the update is marked "urgent".
>>
>> The problem is, this appears to be insufficient.
> Well, if this firefox update was urgent, shouldn't it have been marked
> urgent?

I thought for some reason that all updates marked as security were
automatically urgent, maybe I'm misremembering, but if not it might be
good to do that as a RFE that way all security updates go out non
batched.

>> I really don't understand why we do this "batched" thing to begin with.
>
> To reduce the constant flow of updates that are very minor or affect
> very few mixed in with the major updates that affect lots of people and
> are urgent. To save users downloads of repodata.
>
>> Users who want to batch updates have always been able to do it, GNOME
>> Software will even do it for theNow, those users who want to batch their
>> updates are forced to follow Fedora rel-eng's schedule for the batches
>> rather than being able to pick their own weekday, so how does the server-
>> side batching help them? And those users (like me) who want to get their
>> updates, including security fixes (!) as we see here, as soon as they passed
>> testing are now screwed.
>
> rel-eng's schedule is a cron job at 03:00 on tuesday (so the batch
> appears on wed's pushes).
>
> There was some discussion about changing the gnome batching based on the
> Fedora batching, but I don't know whats happened there.
>
> I haven't seen a bunch of urgent updates get blocked by this process.
> Do you have more data for updates that hit this?
>
>> If people insist on that "batched" misfeature, can we please at least get a
>> fast track repository that contains all the batched updates (but no updates
>> that are still in testing and have not been batched yet!)?
>
> I would be very much against additional repos like this.
>
>
> kevin
>
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