Re: What to I have to do....

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On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 10:31:58AM -0500, Steve Dickson wrote:
> 
> 
> On 12/08/2017 10:07 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 08:31:44AM -0500, Steve Dickson wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12/07/2017 02:18 PM, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote:
> >>> On 2017-12-07 09:31, Steve Dickson wrote:
> >>>> What do I have to do to stop random people 
> >>>> from making random changes to packages I maintain? 
> >>>>
> >>>> How do people get this type of permission?
> >>>
> >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Provenpackager_policy
> >>>
> >>>> Case in point;
> >>> [snip]
> >>>
> >>> These were properly announced:
> >>>
> >>> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/thread/RJYQNLIWBAVQPGLIGUT77WGY5D4TK334/
> >>> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/thread/YKPCYY2JJOAQG67X4I6ZNYRHNYDCNQFL/
> >>>
> >>> This is proper use of the provenpackager privileges.
> >> Which will lead to the instability... IMHO... Allowing people to
> >> to change technology that they are clueless of is just wrong.
> > 
> > I think that's exactly the point ;)
> > We are allowing people who have the knack and inclination to do "boring"
> > cleanups to do them so that _maintainers_ can actually concentrate on
> > _technology_.
> > 
> > From your message one could think that the changes are some massive
> > reworking, but both commits are completely trivial updates of
> > dependencies on package names that have been gone for _years_.
> > 
> > Unless you want to say that the change is somehow wrong, please
> > don't say that "poeple [...] are clueless", because that's disingenuous.
> Fair enough... "clueless" was probably not the most appropriate 
> term to use... But I just read this policy.
> 
>    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Provenpackager_policy
> 
> It is very broad... IHMO.. You open a ticket, get three acks
> a boom! You know have complete access every Fedora package
> including the kernel... hmm...

Well, I'd say this works great. There's maybe a hundred or two hundred
proven packagers and somehow none of them decide to mess up the kernel
any day. In fact, the commits which caused this thread are _correct_:
so far I haven't heard one word to the contrary. I don't see any point
in discussing hypotheticals.

Zbyszek
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